A civil jury found Trump liable for sexual abuse. The FBI interviewed Jane Doe #4 four times and found her credible. Thirty-seven pages are still hidden. David Shuster on why none of this goes away.
“Jane Doe #4 told the FBI she met Jeffrey Epstein in the 1980’s in Hilton Head, South Carolina through a baby sitting service …”
I have to point out that the statement ‘through a babysitting service’ is incorrect. JD#4’s Mother included a flyer with a folder of materials provided to new owners and/or tenants in the community.
The flyer advertised babysitting services [provided by her 13-year-old daughter]. Epstein allegedly arranged babysitting, but when JD#4 arrived at his home, there were no children and it was just her and Epstein.
It’s absolutely fantastic to see Ellie’s work making such a huge difference, being covered by other journalists, and going mainstream.
Thanks for the question. It’s not the same. In one version it implies the existence of a babysitting service or agency that Jane Doe #4 worked through. In reality, it was merely a flyer advertising the services of a babysitter, who was Jane Doe #4, a 13-year- old girl. Her Mother included this flyer, likely as part of a Welcome to the Community folder.
This is the point. By establishing a pattern, and showing that verifiable independent reports from different victims were made--that they were corroborated by statements of family or friends--that there was a similar type of language, action, behavior--that this was linked with commerce (real estate deals, teen beauty pageants, modeling agencies--that there was transportation across state lines (Calendar girls party in Palm Beach with girls and only Trump and Epstein--that Casinos were involved, plane travel (Epstein's), International travel (the island), Trump's resort (Maralago) and Epstein's mansion, parties and the millions of emails--this paints a clear picture of RACKETEERING including sexual trafficking, money laundering, fraud and threats/intimidation. The RICO act can be used to prosecute, meaning confiscating all Trump assets and properties, and he can be in jail with his organized crime buddies.
I hope to all the Gods, Aliens, Simulation simulators that we see this happening soon!!! At any other point in time they would have kicked him out the door in his first term or he would not have made it through to the first term. I can’t believe he still has a base even if it’s shrinking he still has people who believe him. That is insane, people’s hatred towards others that are not like them, has clouded them so much that they seem to have forgotten how much they used to hate pedophiles. Except Ted Cruz he still thinks we should be protecting them.
It is valid information. When they dropped more files about 2 weeks ago, I read every page...Trump is a guilty SOB, as well as many others. This will come to a head soon, Thank God ! Happy St. Patty's to All !
Shining a harsh light into the dark recesses of Trump’s history is without question the most important job of those who still believe in liberal democracy. Trump and his enablers like Peter Thiel, Stephen Miller, Elon Musk and many others are clear enemies of our rights, hopes and dreams. We have to take them down by exposing them, their foul ideology and their corruption to truth. Let all the evidence come out. Soon please.
I believe I have heard Trump declare several times this week, "I can do whatever I want". That was regarding Cuba, but I think it is his life mantra. He is a man who performs sexual assaults on young girls. Who cares? I DO!
Great! We've got a microcephalic in the WH who probably was shortchanged in other areas. Is also a serial liar and worse. I believe EJC and Jane Doe #4 before that creep.
Won yes. Even won when the thing's useless mouthpieces screwed up an appeal. However he might not have remembered to have arranged payments next. That's why I _still_believe_ EJC.
I wish that if Trump did commit any crimes (sex with underage children) that solid evidence can be found and maybe some corroborating witnesses that are telling the truth. I'm tired of the rich and powerful (or not so rich and powerful) getting away with this stuff! We all have better things to do with our time and lives than having to track down these skanky people.
Sex crimes, such as rape, are mostly unwitnessed. That’s why we have to believe credible statements made by victims. In Epstein’s case, we believe the survivors.
Thanks Cliff I'll catch what I can in between doing old ppl stuff-not that I'm old, I do the stuff....want you to know i found BAM thru Ellie, who I saw with Zev, who I saw with Lev and Dean, and every time I follow another thread and the further back it goes the more it sickens me. Thank you to all that amplify the voices that voices that should have been able stopped this decades ago.
Ellie Leonard. Thank you very much for your hard-working investigative journalism. And the integrity you have and sticking with bringing for the truth for the sake of all those young women I hope justice comes soon.
“After considering all the evidence, one cannot but conclude that Donald Trump is, and has been for some time, a full-blown sexual predator. So what does this all mean for our nation? Multiple allegations of sexual assault against any man must be taken seriously; all the more so when that man holds a position of power.”
Barry Levine and Monique El-Faizy: All the President’s Women: Donald Trump and the Making of a Predator
Finally! Old wisdom: where there's smoke there's fire. In Trump's case the smoke is overwhelming. He is a multi-faceted criminal, so what's not to believe?
“Jane Doe #4 told the FBI she met Jeffrey Epstein in the 1980’s in Hilton Head, South Carolina through a baby sitting service …”
I have to point out that the statement ‘through a babysitting service’ is incorrect. JD#4’s Mother included a flyer with a folder of materials provided to new owners and/or tenants in the community.
The flyer advertised babysitting services [provided by her 13-year-old daughter]. Epstein allegedly arranged babysitting, but when JD#4 arrived at his home, there were no children and it was just her and Epstein.
It’s absolutely fantastic to see Ellie’s work making such a huge difference, being covered by other journalists, and going mainstream.
With respect, isn’t that the same thing?
Thanks for the question. It’s not the same. In one version it implies the existence of a babysitting service or agency that Jane Doe #4 worked through. In reality, it was merely a flyer advertising the services of a babysitter, who was Jane Doe #4, a 13-year- old girl. Her Mother included this flyer, likely as part of a Welcome to the Community folder.
Okay got it. Thank you.
I'm no lawyer, but EVERYTHING about this screams that the mango mussolini was given immunity for his sealed deposition against Epstein.
Unlikely because we would see proffers and memos discussing valuable testimony as well as decision
Memos.
But it's heavily redacted and they are still sitting on 3 million pages?
Brava to the woman investigator and writer. We must not back down.
This is the point. By establishing a pattern, and showing that verifiable independent reports from different victims were made--that they were corroborated by statements of family or friends--that there was a similar type of language, action, behavior--that this was linked with commerce (real estate deals, teen beauty pageants, modeling agencies--that there was transportation across state lines (Calendar girls party in Palm Beach with girls and only Trump and Epstein--that Casinos were involved, plane travel (Epstein's), International travel (the island), Trump's resort (Maralago) and Epstein's mansion, parties and the millions of emails--this paints a clear picture of RACKETEERING including sexual trafficking, money laundering, fraud and threats/intimidation. The RICO act can be used to prosecute, meaning confiscating all Trump assets and properties, and he can be in jail with his organized crime buddies.
I hope to all the Gods, Aliens, Simulation simulators that we see this happening soon!!! At any other point in time they would have kicked him out the door in his first term or he would not have made it through to the first term. I can’t believe he still has a base even if it’s shrinking he still has people who believe him. That is insane, people’s hatred towards others that are not like them, has clouded them so much that they seem to have forgotten how much they used to hate pedophiles. Except Ted Cruz he still thinks we should be protecting them.
It is valid information. When they dropped more files about 2 weeks ago, I read every page...Trump is a guilty SOB, as well as many others. This will come to a head soon, Thank God ! Happy St. Patty's to All !
Shining a harsh light into the dark recesses of Trump’s history is without question the most important job of those who still believe in liberal democracy. Trump and his enablers like Peter Thiel, Stephen Miller, Elon Musk and many others are clear enemies of our rights, hopes and dreams. We have to take them down by exposing them, their foul ideology and their corruption to truth. Let all the evidence come out. Soon please.
I believe I have heard Trump declare several times this week, "I can do whatever I want". That was regarding Cuba, but I think it is his life mantra. He is a man who performs sexual assaults on young girls. Who cares? I DO!
Great! We've got a microcephalic in the WH who probably was shortchanged in other areas. Is also a serial liar and worse. I believe EJC and Jane Doe #4 before that creep.
EJC won her case against Trump, so your point about her is moot, surely?
Won yes. Even won when the thing's useless mouthpieces screwed up an appeal. However he might not have remembered to have arranged payments next. That's why I _still_believe_ EJC.
Great work! Thanks so much for persevering.
So, Barr’s Legacy is - PROTECTED PEDOPHILES TO THE FULLEST EXTENT HE COULD.
I wish that if Trump did commit any crimes (sex with underage children) that solid evidence can be found and maybe some corroborating witnesses that are telling the truth. I'm tired of the rich and powerful (or not so rich and powerful) getting away with this stuff! We all have better things to do with our time and lives than having to track down these skanky people.
Sex crimes, such as rape, are mostly unwitnessed. That’s why we have to believe credible statements made by victims. In Epstein’s case, we believe the survivors.
Thanks Cliff I'll catch what I can in between doing old ppl stuff-not that I'm old, I do the stuff....want you to know i found BAM thru Ellie, who I saw with Zev, who I saw with Lev and Dean, and every time I follow another thread and the further back it goes the more it sickens me. Thank you to all that amplify the voices that voices that should have been able stopped this decades ago.
Then why wasn't he immediately arrested?!!
In the UK he would be made to resign well before any litigation commenced. We don’t tolerate sexual abuse and corruption in political figures.
Ellie Leonard. Thank you very much for your hard-working investigative journalism. And the integrity you have and sticking with bringing for the truth for the sake of all those young women I hope justice comes soon.
Some victims were minors, i.e. children, like Jane Doe #4 who was 13 years old when attacked. It’s important to say this out loud.
“After considering all the evidence, one cannot but conclude that Donald Trump is, and has been for some time, a full-blown sexual predator. So what does this all mean for our nation? Multiple allegations of sexual assault against any man must be taken seriously; all the more so when that man holds a position of power.”
Barry Levine and Monique El-Faizy: All the President’s Women: Donald Trump and the Making of a Predator
Finally! Old wisdom: where there's smoke there's fire. In Trump's case the smoke is overwhelming. He is a multi-faceted criminal, so what's not to believe?
R. Poche, New Orleans